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Postmark-Machin
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 63 years old and a long term collector of stamps. I collected stamps with some interruptions for 55 years now, but philately always has had my interest during all those years. I am not a seller. More the ‘collect and hold’ – type. Besides some extensive non specialized country collections of European countries with a lot of ‘gravure’ produced stamps (France, Sweden, Tsechoslowakia) nowadays I collect primarily ‘used’ Machin stamps. Much to be sorted!

Although I have quite some mint examples of Machins, they do not really inspire me in the long term. A highly specialized mint collection is very costly when you were not ‘in there’ from the start in 1967. The last years Royal Mail also uses collectors too much as a commercial target. I want to put my hobby-money elsewhere.

Much more attractive and relatively more payable are in my view the used Machin one’s in all kinds of forms and appearances. Singles, pairs, strips, perforations, perfins, phosphor bands, postmarks etc. etc. All are collectable for me. For stocking singles I follow an strict approach for value, color, date of issue and Regionals integrated with England. From there I make subdivisions. References are Deegam (3d Ed.) and Michel UK Specialized (2009/10). The latter uses the Deegam system as basis, but has for me an even more integrated approach than Deegam. This Michel approach gives me as a collector of ‘used’ a better and faster oversight and solves the problem of searching through different pages or chapters.

The other available catalogues are for me much too complicated. Those other organization approaches in catalogues or albums are – with all the respect for sellers/collectors who are specialized into those strict sectional divisions – better for ‘mint’ collectors, in my view. I am still awaiting a catalogue with special emphasis for collecting ‘used’ Machins.

What else do I focus on? In the past 10 years I collected many thousands of used one’s from UK kilo ware or other bulky sources. I have now the time to search deeper into those vast amounts. More than 80% is thrown away rigorously as ‘not up to my quality standard for used’. Those are deliberately not put into the (charity) market again. The garbage bin is the only place to go. What’s not good enough for me, is not good enough for others! The remaining selected Machin stamps are put aside for further investigation (when time permits).

The last six years of searching through the raw material draws not only much attention to those ‘better’ used one’s, but also attracts me to ‘round postmarks’ in relation to Machins. This are the small and large round postmarks with at least time, place and date information. Most of them are related to processes of postal mechanization for sorting and cancellation. Many of those postmarks are also put on by hand. This corner of specialization is for me the most important and challenging nowadays. The scope is on the last 50 years and primarily Machin related.

There is quite some specialist English literature available to learn from and there are some postmark listings. But those lists are far from complete, up to date or transparent enough for my goals. I collect those ‘round’ postmarks in all possible varieties and seizes, in the form of ‘place names’, ‘fully CDS’, ‘partly on stamp and piece of paper/cover’ and/or integral part of ‘slogan strips’ complete with Machin stamp. To get more insight I have made a flexible try-out database in Excel 2003 (still ‘work in progress’, but already easy to use and relational). I try to get it working for a representative sample so the data lay out is correct from the start. This 'project' is meant for description and indexation of all the different place names and round postmarks - mostly related to Machins - to be found in the past 50 years or so. It gives me also a practice based inventory of all the possible ‘round cancel’ varieties by machine or hand. There are a lot more varieties par UK place name than I had expected at the beginning! And very time consuming.

I expect this index will never be complete, but I can give it a try. Incompleteness is a character of collecting Machins anyway, so it is something I can live with in the case of postmarks also.

I hope to open a separate topic soon on this site to see if other collectors are also interested in aspects of this kind of specialization. Looking forward to an enjoyable coöperation with you all and I hope to contribute to the collecting of ‘ used’ Machins at the level it deserves!

Pieter
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Pieter - another expert - this forum loves both the long term collector and the newbie alike.

Interesting comment:
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References are Deegam (3d Ed.) and Michel UK Specialized (2009/10). The latter uses the Deegam system as basis, but has for me an even more integrated approach than Deegam. This Michel approach gives me as a collector of ‘used’ a better and faster oversight and solves the problem of searching through different pages or chapters.

I assume the Michel though is not in English?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gooner wrote:
Welcome Pieter - another expert - this forum loves both the long term collector and the newbie alike.

Interesting comment:
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References are Deegam (3d Ed.) and Michel UK Specialized (2009/10). The latter uses the Deegam system as basis, but has for me an even more integrated approach than Deegam. This Michel approach gives me as a collector of ‘used’ a better and faster oversight and solves the problem of searching through different pages or chapters.

I assume the Michel though is not in English?


Indeed, this version is not in English. But its system is easy to follow when you are familiar with basic philatelic terminology and already a little expierenced into the basics of the DEEGAM-system.

For me such a multi language sourcing is not really a problem, but I can imagine that other collectors need a little more motivation to use a 'foreign' source like that as a reference. For me it functions primarily as a comprehensive, not too tall and yet integrated index. You can very fast identify if there are variants that you have to look further into from a 'used' point of view.

A more serious argument for the native uk collector is may be its price, around 70 euro ex sending/handling. But it is 'a book' you can take with you. So choices to be made by yourself!

Besides this, you made me thinking of something else. I hope to buy the new CD version of the Deegam as soon as it is available. I hope that it is possible to search in a flexible way from some specified information questions.

If not, it could be an idea to add to the standard DEEGAM system a sort of build in search engine for 'used' machins'. Deegam has developed several fully covering systems for describing and determination of mint variants. Why not adding such search scenario's for 'used' with various levels of detail. In that case you can temporarily narrow the scope of information to what you personally need. The database stays the same, so it is 'only' about adding some smart search functionality. As a used collector you are not burdened by all the 'ballast' that is indeed very useful for a 'mint' collector.

I am not familiar yet with the actual CD version of the Deegam, I have only the loose leaf version. May be I propose something that already is possible. Otherwise, I hope the message provokes some motivation in the DEEGAM-network to make things possible in the near future. That way the system as a whole will be even more attractive than it already is. That could also promotes the collecting of 'used' Machins to a further level.


Pieter.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: New member Reply with quote

Hi I'm Steve former member of American Philatelic Society been collecting for 60 years. Put aside my Latin American collection to collect Great Britain line engraved issues and have been hooked on Machins for about 4 months and I'm losing my mind in the process.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope to buy the new CD version of the Deegam as soon as it is available.

I understand the new version of Deegam is to be released to coincide with Stampex 2010 (mid-May).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TOTALLY OFF TOPIC - BUT I KNOW THIS THREAD GETS MANY VIEWS.

Could everyone make an effort to update their profile with a "LOCATION" please. I only want to see the Country - if you want to put more that's fine.

Reasoning:
I would like to see the geographic spread of membership.
It makes it easier to understand the sort of times a person may be on-line as most of us are clever enough to understand GMT + or -.
It sometimes helps to explain things differently knowing if someone is from a different nation or culture.

PS - it is not so much your nationality I am interested in it is your country of residence.


Thank you to those members who have altered their profile as requested above - it's a very helpful addition. To those who have not got around to it yet - if you could spare five minutes I would be grateful.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

Hi - I'm Roger M from a little town south of Seattle. I've been collecting US since 1954 but have lately gotten a granddaughter started on Machins (since on her mother's side, her ancesters are PURE English) We are both almost overwhelmed by the numbers, and are trying to start with making an album in issue-date order, starting with the pre-decimals. And including all the reasonably-priced varieties. We would welcome any clues, hints, info sources, etc? We have found adminware, connoisseur catalogue, etc and will probably get the Deegam DVD, but making the timeline and being assured that it's correct is daunting. We are finding the subtleties fascinating AND overwhelming. But fun, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Roger your intro note indicates you are on the right track.
There is a Machin dealer in Tigard Oregon (Richard's Stamps ) who has a vast inventory and has been at it for years. Also in Rhode Island John and Tina Carlson operate JET Stamps and are most co-operative and helpful.
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And if you do get deeply involved, nothing will provide more information and data than the Deegam Complete Machin Handbook. Without it is like working in a deep coalmine without a torch looking for the proverbial needle. Doug's handbook has just been updated with the fourth edition and if it were printed on paper would comprise well over 2,000 pages.
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In order to provide understanding of the Machin series, Doug has chapters that delve deeply into the printing process and the reasoning behind each modification of what started out a a simple stamp set 43 years ago. That knowledge applies to understanding many other stamps issued by nations all over the world.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

I'm Stuart Woodhouse, a full time stamp dealer from West Wales currently, although we moved from Oxfordshire 7 years ago . I run our business jointly with my wife Sharon for about the last 11 or 12 years together. Our website address is www.stu1967.co.uk and we had over 25,000 hits last year (2009). I see from some older posts that we have been mentioned a couple of times on this forum, positive ones gladly!

I collected stamps as a kid and can clearly remember my dad telling me that my stamps would never be worth anything in the condition I collected them because they used to be all over the floor. Years later I went to boarding school over here in the UK while my parents were living abroad and he would send the latest mint issues by letter from Germany to soften the blow of me being away from the family for months on end, ... I say by letter as he used to lick the top quarter of each mint stamp to the top of the letter paper ! After several sets ruined I told him and he said I was ungrateful and stopped sending them. He went on about condition! Shortly after I archived my small collection till my mid twenties.

When my son was only just about walking and I suddenly decided to start collecting FDC's for him for when he was older. I found a regular market stool on a carboot sale in south Oxfordshire and started buying a couple of dozen covers a week for around 50p each. The market stool holder told me that as I was buying on a regular basis that I could do a little bit of work for him and cover what I was buying if I was interested. That work turned out sorting a post office postal sack of unsorted stamps from a charity. Wow, we soon got things working and we were sorting 2 sacks a week and getting our young kids involved on the kitchen table with all four of us sorting. Not only did this pay for all the FDCs but also a running credit with the stool holder. At the end of the year the stool holder told us that he couldnt keep up with us and that the credit would be paid by cheque. Sure enough days before christmas he gave us 2 x £250 cheques. That was christmas sorted I thought and we went and spent the cheques on toys and food. Then after christmas a letter from the bank revealed that both cheques had bounced and when I contacted the stool holder he told me they should have been ok and to represent them. We did and in the new year they were returned to us again. We were charged £10 on each of the 4 occasions. At this time Sharon was going irate and said she wanted to get even, she showed me the address of the charity she believed it was was coming from from a piece of paper that had come out of the unsorted mix. We rang this small charity based near Coventry at the time to see if there was any chance of us being given the opportunity to buy directly from them. Bingo - it turned out that the market stool holder owed them more than £1000. So, we got the charities stamps, we finally got the money from the market stool holder and the rest is history as they say. we ended up getting the biggest charity in the UK's stamps after a couple of years and havent looked back since.

We mostly sell very recent GB , European and British Commonwealth stamps, however we do come into contact with a lot of Machins, many of which are just bagged up and sold in 100gram and 200gram packs without ever being checked. I am in no way machin expert and as I have only limited knowledge. So as an earlier post indicated I really do not take much or anything out of the mixes. I do occasionally sell the high value machin packs as they come but these sell very very fast. We do get sacks available of post sorted GB kiloware which is the leftovers of a sorter's spoil. These are sold in 23kg sacks and contain maybe 80% machins (mostly 1st, 2nd , large letter PiP's and some older machins with possibly some newer high mid values upto a pound value. When available these are found in the 'Bargains and spacefillers' tab at the top of the page on the right.
Single fine used machins have their own tab on the site which most ordinary values and printing etc can be found, I do not specialize in gums etc and the amount of mint stamps may be limited but found in a sub section of GB mint stamps.

When you get a few minutes spare why not have a look?

Stuart Woodhouse www.stu1967.co.uk ++44(0)1639) 830923
Stu1967 - Suppliers of quality stamps, kiloware and mixes from around the world. Good quantities of recent GB stamps, British Commonwealth and European countries
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stuart - welcome - an interesting story about how you started in the business.

The moral - honesty pays!

I believe I have already rcommended your site to members before and indeed I have bought from you myself in the past. Stuart does seem to be able to have some of the more modern difficult issues a lot earlier than most.

P.S. You have an order from me in hand right now don't you? (Yes is the correct answer!).

I have a question - I assume you find your singles/blocks/pairs that you sell separately in your charity kiloware - therefore although I understand your comment about not getting involved in gums etc..... they are not 100% unsorted are they?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Yes Dave, I just got the last sheets cancelled by the local Welsh dragon postmaster to complete your order. Thank you.

I get most of my single machins and commemorative stamps from my son and daughter who are civil servants for the DVLA offices in Swansea.
Many of the pairs/blocks etc come directly off Special delivery envelopes straight from DVLA, a high percentage of the mail they recieve is recorded or registerred as you can imagine. This mix is seperate from any other kiloware we recieve and we have never sold this as a mix to anyone, we have always sorted this ourselves due to the grossly better quality of stamps to normal mail.

Kiloware is really hard to get hold of at present and much is now over a year old before I recieve it. Much of this material has been sold as recieved in bulk by me until recently, but of late I have gone back to sorting myself. I could never give a 100% assurance that kiloware is unsorted as it may have been before I recieve it from the charities. That said, from what I have been finding in the last 6 months or so its definately unsorted. We have hoarded kiloware over that 2 years knowing full well that our supply may come to an end. If it were sorted , Sharon wouldn't have found a £10 note this morning and a £5 this afternoon?
We do buy in collections and auction material aswell, many items have been from these lots.

The packs of high value machins etc will have been sorted as there will be no uncancelled material present. Again though, I dont look for lithograph stamps, phosphers or perf variations. Also high value security machins are not widely available throughout the post offices and so these dont very often appear. ..and a lot less that people expect I'm guessing.

With 3000kgs of unsorted stamps in stock and upto 50- 100kg coming in every week its impossible to sort for individual stamps and keep continually loading on my website, even with two of us.

Anyway...back to sorting stamps!

Stuart
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying that Stuart.

I quite often look for albums from "supposed" non-collectors but invariably they have been picked over at least once by someone although the description nearly always says "untouched since I bought it"
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

My name is Erik, and my specialty of collecting is Machins and UK in general.

I am a member of StampBoards, and I noticed this site while looking for philatelic clubs.

I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and I'm probably the youngest member here at 14.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Erik, let me be the first to welcome you to this forum. I have seen your posts on Stampboards about the Commonwealth nations and so forth.
If you have any questions at all about any facit of stamping I am sure there will be someone here who will either know the answer or will help you find the answer.
Sometimes even old fogeys like me discover, by trying to help someone with a question, new knowledge ourselves. In fact it happens more often than not.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I am David

I suppose I had a stamp collection as a child - I can certainly remember trading something for what turned out to be a cut out of a penny red when I was 9. (Clive you have not been forgiven!)

I am aware that I have always been an accumulator rather than a collector (books, fossils, fishing tackle, stamps). The upside is that it encouraged me to buy a house big enough for the family with a bit left over for my "treasures". The downside is that if it is not organised no one else will recognise that it is worth having. So my wake up call was when my wife suggested that if I dropped off my perch unexpectedly all my treasures would be carted off to the charity shop.

So I am slowly transferring my treasures from shoeboxes and envelopes into stockbooks and eventually albums. I disappear to my study to "put my affairs in order". Unfortunately I also discovered stamp shows, eBay, kiloware, Deegam and some really interesting websites (including this one). So the treasures continue to accumulate faster than I can organise them.

Still, it keeps me out of the pub and gives me half an excuse not to watch Heskey fall over again or Rooney miscontrolling a football. (I have a friend in South Africa at the moment. He must have spent more on the World Cup 2010 than I have spent in 30 years of accumulating.) Worse things could happen than that it all gets recycled via CancerUK Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

My name is Marc. I started collecting stamps as a young lad in the days of Thunderbirds, but got distracted when I was introduced to wine, song and women Wink

About 10 years ago (after the distraction), I picked up this habit again and have been collecting GB stamps since then. I basically started with commems, then continued with booklets, PSB's, Defin PP's, Year books and Packs, MS's and Generic sheets. At the rate RM are currently supplying new goodies, I might have to quit sometime soon. Or I'll have to wait until a new Royal era begins, then give up this habit Wink My wife tends to call it an addiction!

About one year ago, I looked at the Machins and started to get interested in this side of things. I ordered the DeeGam, joined the MBPC, and currently have a whole bunch of unsorted machins (mint only).

My plan is to sort/collect my machins according to DG level 3 (not level 4 which I consider to be the a,b character after the level 3 number). I will start with national singles, move on to the NVI's, Regionals, and so on.

I hope to get some help on this site, and look forward to conversing with some of you.

Marc

p.s Will the Machin era end once Charles is King?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Marc - help is only a question away .....

PS As Charlie (our prince - cdj1122 - not his royal idiotness) likes to say - "the only dumb question is the one that is not asked" so don't be shy. Dance 3
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Hello, I am Daniel. I live in Canberra in Australia. I was introduced to stamp collecting as a boy by my father, who bought me a blue Stanley Gibbons album (I remember it fondly to this day). I spent a year working in a stamp shop[ in Sydney in 1993, which taught me a lot about stamps - and made me admire Machins! I became a serious KGVI collector in the 1980s/1990s, but sold everything over ten years ago and have not touched collecting since - KGVI proved too daunting and expensive! I did keep one thing, a little collection of Hong Kong machins that I put together when I lived in Hong Kong between 1993-96. Recently, I decided to buy the last few things I needed to complete that set. I also started browsing Machin sites, including this forum, to find out more about the set (at some stage I'll write up some of the information and send it to our moderator!). As a result, my liking for Machins in general has been awakened, and I decided to put together a concise set and then look at specialising in a few limited areas - I like NVIs, Regional/World issues, the millenium stamps and the new security issues. So I will doubtless ask lots of questions about those as I learn about them!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome aboard Daniel. We do have a sub section that is directed at the beautiful Hong Kong Series of Machin heads. As for our central interest, the UK Machins, the basic series consists of about 420 color/value varieties and by themselves they can form an impressive series of pages for your album. Add a few easily differentiated variations and the number approaches 1,000. If you get that far you will be hooked for life and beyond that thousand or so stamp issues is a world of minor but extremely interesting varieties.
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Most Machin collectors use the knowledge they have acquired from the study of the Machins Series to enlarge their philatelic knowledge and help them with other areas of the stamp collecting world.
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So enjoy the series and if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
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Thank you very much for your welcome, Charlie. I think I should aim to complete the 1,000 or so Machins to start with - and see what happens from there! I will spend the next few weeks reading as much as I can and looking at resources like this forum as I learn more about GB Machins. So forgive me if I ask the occasional silly question out of ignorance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My theory is that the only stupid question is the one someone is afraid to ask. So shoot.
BTW, I expect that there are several lurkers who will be wondering about the same thing that you might ask.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

My name is Arno and I reside in the U.S. I just got into the Machins after a number of years of cutting my teeth on the Canadian Centennial Definitives.
As most of you know... lots of gums, papers, perfs, coils, booklets etc. Kind of a stepping stone to the Machins. Wink

I was at London 2010 and became fascinated by all the varieties and "opportunities" that were available.

Looking forward to learning more about this issue from everybody.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All,

My name is Bill and I've been collecting specialised Machins since 1974. I collected just mint singles, coil strips and folded Machine booklets. I used to get these by standing order from the late Cyril Jonas until his death in the late 1990s. Most of the stamps remained in the packets as received until a couple of years ago when I decided to make a start to sort and display them.

I am going to use the format of the MCC Catalogue to display them, but will use the corresponding 'Deegam Profiles' to identify and label them.

I confess to having 'lurked' on this forum for quite a while and today decided to register.

Bill.
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Welcome aboard Arno and Bill. I trust you will find lots of questions we can help you find the answers for.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

Hello all; I am a re-enrolling member who has been out of the stamp world for a while due to family reasons. My desire to reorganise and update my lapsed collection of specialised scottish regional definitives (lions and emblems) has motivated me to get back into the land of the machin....so here I am (again). I trust Mr Gooner will forgive my absence?
Anyway......as I said, my main interest is scottish regionals (pre and post decimal) - there are too many general ones and I was getting bored with the plethora of excessive commerorative issues. I am originally from Glasgow, so sticking to my home turf seemed reasonable. I recently aquired the SG Specialised QEII Vol 4 Part 2, so I have much to explore. I also intend to start collecting cylinder blocks as well as ploughing through the many packages of bulk lion regionals I have stashed away, looking for flaws errors varieties etc.... A warm hello to all members.
PS - my sideline is submarines on stamps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive you Alex - I absolutely love you ...... I have been waiting for SG Specialised QEII Vol 4 Part 2 to be released since I don't know when.... I assume this lists everything that was missing from Volume 1 ... does it include any of the new Security Machins?

I thought there would be a great fanfare when it was released.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:56 pm    Post subject: SG QEII Vol 4 Pt 2 Reply with quote

Dave.....steady on.....lol.....yes....the new above covers all issues (not in Pt1) up to end 2009.......I have been waiting for this all year...
Alex.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

Just announcing myself. I got back into collecting a short while back, inheriting my Dad's collection got me interested again.

I've discovered that Machins fascinate me and as I've got a full standard set I'm about to embark on the slippery specialised slope. Should give me plenty to do alongside the other threads I collect. Next step is to pick a catalogue to work from.

Anyway hi all.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Simon - inheriting a "full standard set" is a great start. The catalogue requirement is a personal choice.

If you are talking to other Machin collecors that are non-specialists they will always quote Stanley Gibbons so it is probably wise to have a copy of this at some level to make that connection - whether it is the Concise or the Specialised (now two volumes) is a matter of personal choice.

I believe you will only need to read a few threads on here before it becomes apparant what most specialist's "bible" is! A clue - it begins with D......
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, having lurked here and done a bit of prelim research I've concluded that I'll need both the SG specialised (I use the Concise now) and Deegam.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

My name is Michael Jensen, 50 years of age and retired after a car crash with a severe whiplash disorder. I live in the suburbs of Copenhagen Denmark.

I have collected UK for about 40 Years and have the latest 15 years specialized in Machins, in the late 1990ish I discovered the Deegam system which changed my way of collection Machins radically, I am now collecting by the Deegam way only but have recently joined the MBPC for collection panes and books etc.

I am right now in the middle of setting my collection up on album pages, I think this will be finished in a year or so, for this I am using Corel Draw X5 software and Lighthouse BL19 album and pages, printing the pages on an A3 color laser printer.

I do hope to get both inspiration and knowledge and maybe a chance to swop or buy some machines on this forum.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael, welcome aboard.
I am sorry you suffered that kind of injury in a car crash. I hope that you have recovered from it and have gotten your full range of motion back.
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Re-arranging your Machin collection is quite a task, good luck with it. I hope you find the time to contribute your thoughts or questions to the forum.You will find the members quite friendly and always willing to share information.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

Hello All, I am George from Boston. I'm a graduate of the LSE so I have close ties to London and am very happy indeed to see that I am not the only Arsenal FC fan that is also a stamp collector.

I had been collecting Machins up to about 2002, and then life got busy. I have just recently pulled out my collection and hope to get at it again. Being from the States I had started using Scott numbers which may not have been the best thing. In fact the last time I was in Rowan Baker's shop he told me to sell them and start over (or something like that). I guess I would be a level 1. I hope to collect an example of color/ denomination for each stamp issued, and not every single variety of that stamp.

Looking at my collection for the first time in a long while I am completely confused again, and must read my notes. I will have several questions right off the bat so I will post in the forum.

Best wishes to all, and hoping the Premiership trophy ends up in the right neighborhood of north London.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome George- feel free to ask any question you like ....

That is three of us at least on this site hoping that then ... me you and Tangles.....

A Brit, a Yank and an Aussie - talk about an International support group...

At least we all know there's absolutely NO DANGER of it going to the WRONG side of North London .....

Charlie - I'll let George explain that to you as one USA to another.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Brit, A Yank and an Aussie walked into a pub.
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The barman said: "This has gotta be some sort of joke!"
As he quickly began to put his best bottles and glasses away.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is good to see that there are at least three gooners on this forum. The right side of North London indeed. In my case, my dad grew up down the Edgeware Road from Highbury, and I taught my daughter to sing 'We Are the Arsenal' at the age of three...that was the year of the Invincibles, however, so some concessions must be made!

Of course, Machins are also interesting! So welcome to the group, and fire away those questions. My particular specialty is Hong Kong Machins if those interest you at all...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an experienced collector of Australia, particularly KGV heads, and when one of our club members gave a talk on Machins a few months ago, I could see lots of similarities - one design over many years, with many denominations and shades. So here I am.

I only collect used, and prefer dated CDS within the correct period of issue. So my initial target is to complete the basic Adminware album - and after that, who knows?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome John, old and new collectors alike are all welcome in this forum. Make yourself at home and if you have any questions ..........

My fellow moderator cdj1122 is also a collector of only postally used so you should get on fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the welcome Dave.

I recognize Charlie's handle from Stampboards - I'm a moderator there.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I am a new member of forum. Would a newcomer be warmly welcome here? Good day you guys!!!
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rachely476 wrote:
Hi, I am a new member of forum. Would a newcomer be warmly welcome here? Good day you guys!!!
All newcomers are welcomed as warmly as possible given the limitations of cyber space.
I hope that there are some things about the Machin series that we can help you with but we also have sub-segments that deal with other facets of stamping.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rachel,
Of course all new members are welcome, and your experience is of no mind either. Please ask or answer any questions you like.

One thing - can you go into your profile and add your location, can be as general as your country (I am guessing USA) or as detailed as your town, state, country e.g. "Smallville, mystate, my country".

This is not a nosy request it actually helps the other members when answering your questions ... for example... you ask .. where can I buy a Specialised Catalogue? ... it is no point me telling you that the cheapest are available in a shop in London England when you are in Tahiti.... but one of our members who lives closer may be able to give you a better connection.

Anyone else reading this who has still to complete their profile in the same way please do so ... I thank you all in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

having signed up the other day, it's about time I made a comment about myself.

I've been collecting in one form or another since I was about 10. Over the intervening 25/30yrs I have progressively specialised to greater and greater degrees. These days my focus is on Unmounted mint Machins and GB Queen Victoria line engraved material from the tail end of the imperf period through to the penny plates. My main QV focus is on 1d red 'stars' which I plate and collect all variants of. More relevant to this forum of course, my Machin collection is of unmounted mint singles (well, mostly anyway), which I collect to Deegam level 2+. I don't do missing phosphors, short/inset bands or the likes, but I do collect directions of print for example; so its more than level 2, but not as far as level 3!

In many ways, the reason I collect both Machins and the Victorian issues is that they have a lot of similarities. Both collections deal with the developing technologies of the day and both have almost limitless complexity. Now all I need is a limitless bank account to afford it all!

If you happen to collect both too, feel free to give me a shout. Otherwise, I shall see you around the forum.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Geoff A (Sheffield UK ) Reply with quote

Hi all.
My name is Geoff. I started collecting stamps in 1973, my wife bought me a set of the 73 Royal Wedding stamps from Urch Harris in Bristol. I got interested in Machins when Urch Harris sent me literature regarding a Machin Album they had on offer. I bought two from them and have been collecting Machin's ever since. I have, over the years, lived and worked in Dubai, Hong Kong, Oman and India collecting mint stamps allong the way. My Interests have always been mint Machin's and my aim, now I have retired, is to put my Machin collection into albums.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Geoff ... do you have images of the Urch Harris album - this is not one I am familiar with.

I also worked in Dubai at the beginning of the century, with a couple of trips to Oman thrown in for good measure. Never fancied any of their stamps though.
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Oh yes, Dubai.
One of my sons is on his way home from there and that neighborhood as we speak, or write.
I have been to Bahrain and Aden and cannot imagine how people can endure the heat for long.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You get used to it Charlie - I am not exactly a sun-worshipper - I even tend to sit under a brolly all day when on holiday, but I was never really uncomfortable whilst in Dubai (except during a round of golf on my first day there - but that was my stupidity).

Everything is air-conditioned in fact between November and February it is actually quite temperate - still hot but not unbearable. You go from an A/C apartment to an A/C Car to an A/C office to an A/C pub to an A/C apartment.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again and thank you.
I dont have a picture of my U H albums but I will post one soon.
Two of my sons are presently in Dubai for the Rugby 7's, one of them is due back next week so I will get him on the case.
As far as their stamps are concerned I have collected the UAE defin's from day one and found them very interesting. Likewise Oman and QEII Hong Kong defin's, especialy the HK Machins.
As far as the weather in Dubai goes, I stuck it for eighteen years so I got used to it. Its -5 here in Sheffield at the moment, my son called from a beer tent in Dubai, a couple of hrs ago and it was 38deg. I told him to change his flight and stay in Dubai until it warms up a bit here in UK. He said OK see you in June!!
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Ah another HK Machin man eh ... you might want a discussion with Tangles when he gets out of his current strop.. (he's Australian and not pleased with what is going on in Adelaide right now).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-5' Geoff, try coming up the M1.

As dear readers will know I am in the throes of trying to sort out another field of collecting, all this talk re H.K. is giving me ideas, is the range large enough to provide an interest?
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