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Machins are used and trimmed on paper

 
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pesavento
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject: Machins are used and trimmed on paper Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I am a collector and passionate about machins, recently bought a lot on ebay 100 Different Great Britain Security Machin Definitives 2009-2014, all stamps are used and trimmed on paper. My doubt is whether to separate the roles or leave the way this and add in my collection that is mixed used and new?

Thanks a lot,

Rodrigo
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Gooner
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very VERY individual choice.

I personally took the decision to leave all stamps that had the "U Cut" (since 2009-10) on paper, but then I found a dealer who was able to remove the stamps without damaging them, so I have been slowly exchanging them.
This removes the anomaly of "albumising" them alongside used issues from Prestige Books of the same period.

However, as a specialised collector - I am struggling to obtain good used off paper U-cuts issues from (for example) self-adhesive counter booklets.
So at some stage, I might make the jump to learning to do this myself. Time is the issue for me.

If time is not an issue maybe you could learn how to do the same, as obviously they will look better off paper.
But ..... do you really want to risk damaging them that is the question?

Not sure this comment is very helpful, due to my over-riding thought at the top of it.
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vikingman
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Every collector has their own preference of displaying these however removing the security machins off paper using isopropyl alcohol weakens the phosphor and most times rendering it unviewable under UV. Not sure if this is the same for other methods. Removing from paper also smudges many postmarks and depending what you're removing them with can even take off your fine postmark completely.
I started collecting back in 09 and removing from paper but soon switched to leaving on paper as this keeps the postmark and phosphor in fine condition.

Stanley Gibbons recommends leaving these on paper with a margin around the stamp, similar to the penny black's margins. Good advice.

Some of the security machins seen on Ebay that have been removed from paper look dreadful and have been crumpled as the seller hasn't removed them correctly.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know - I am still undecided about which way to go.
Since writing my original comment I have actually created an album specifically for 2009-2016 U-Cut and/or Security-Overprinted and I still couldn't make up my mind even then.

So I decided to err on the side of safety and made the boxes big enough to encompass stamps that have trimmed paper left on but also not so big as to make a stamp with the paper removed look stupid.

Hopefully, I have hit the middle ground correctly.

Which way did you decide to go in the end Rodrigo?
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