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Tony1965
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:02 pm    Post subject: 0.5p Value Reply with quote

Hi

Question

How many varieties are there regarding the half p Value
I know of the left band / centre band / 2 bands
I'm trying to put together a page without going to deep

Hope this makes sense

Tony
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Paul
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tony,

At the band variation level there is also an easily available variety on phosphorised paper with no bands which would give you 4 basic band varieties.

More detailed than that and you start getting into paper / gum variations.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, you are right about the bands, but there is more to the p than that. Here is, an off the top of my pointy head, list of variations that are quite visible with good (young) eyes or with, at most a moderate strength magnifier.
There are the obvious band varieties, LB, RB, NB, 2B and CB.
However, there are sheet varieties,
all perfs are torn, and
coils, vertical where the side perfs are been cut, and
horizontal, where the top and bottom perfs were cut, not torn apart.
Then there are varieties from booklets where one or two adjacent sides were cut with the rest torn apart;

LS or
RS,
Top or Bottom plus,
LS and Bottom,
RS and Bottom,
LS and Top, as well as
RS and Top.
Looking at the image there may be,
a flat , or
a curved, bottom of the image.
The numbers of the value may be,
thick or,
thin and
the distance of the numeral from either the left frame line,
or the bottom of the base of the number to the bottom frame line.
can be different.
There are several combinations of these characteristics.
One exciting variety is where the center band only goes halfway down the stamp.
So, my answer to the question asked ;
" ... How many varieties are there regarding the half p Value ..."
I count at least twenty with one example of each.
However, there could band varieties from,
several of the booklet and
coil varieties,
almost all of nominal cost.
And then here are shades to play with if wanted, some are quite distinct.
Remember these are all visible to the naked eye,
From this point on, things do get technical and
tools are required to see the differences easily.
One added note,
because the p, 1p and 2p issues were so long lived,
the 1p and 2p being issued and used to this day,
a collector could fill , many album pages with
just these three color values.
The best way to find and gain experience
is through a bulk kiloware purchase. With luck a pile of a hundred or more p, 1p, and 2p Machins will be a lot of fun sorting and identifying. Once you have learned what to look for you can move on to the more complicated items and find you actually have more varieties. than first thought.
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I hope I cleared up all the typos this time.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, let me add that there are three printing types, Photogravure, Lithography and photo engraving, that are quite easy to check with a magnifier that probably doubles the number of possibilities and while a bit more technical aren't all that difficult to explore.
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Paul
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Charlie - that's definitely a more comprehensive and detailed response than mine. I'm not certain the 1/2p specifically has all those printing types, but it's certainly true of machins in general.

I would also definitely recommend to get the Deegam handbook, as for a relatively low cost (and free updates) it has so much detailed information and you can make a more informed decision on which level you would like to collect to, especially if you intend to branch out beyond just the 1/2p value.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Paul, the DCMH is my stamp Bible. Without it I would be lost. And in the first volume, the Chapters and Appendixes there is a wealth of information.,that may be available here and there on the internet, but is the only place it is gathered in a logical format.
If you need the address for ordering just google Deegam Publications".
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